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General Discussion / Re: My feelings on Baiting.
« on: January 16, 2008, 10:31:19 PM »
Hey I also have a lil bit more info to ad on this baiting deal! Ok is it Cwd as in the brain Dissorder or is it? As Cwd was introduced a phew years Back so was the timber wolf to Norther parts of the State. I have a place in Juneau county by the neceada wild life refuge an have saw a phew wolfs in that area but we cant bait or feed there anymore. Hummm? Makes me wonder would in the dead of winter a backyard feeding person kill more deer than if they hunted because they are pulling the deer into a spot an leting wolfs sit in the background waiting to get into place for a attack or kill maybe over time like how many bites would it take? 2 or three deer get bitten over a phew days and one is sure to go down in heavy snow due to the wound over time well all this baiting thing to me is a lil maybe bit of a smoke screen from the main deal it might just be the fact take a hungry predator or a phew of them for that fact and give them a easy meal like a doe nursing a gun season wound eating corn from a feeding site what do ya think might happen? I guess its all a lil weird Cwd comes around when the wolf is coming back strong and no baiting is a result.

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Whitetail Deer / Re: No faith in the SAK numbers
« on: December 09, 2007, 10:00:53 AM »
Hey me agian. Been hunting since I was 12 and have seen many changes in hunting as a whole. The number of hunters has gone down while the numbers of hunters now have beter chances to get a deer with all the gadgets out there to use. Guns are better and so are the bows we use. Broad heads with broad heads in the tip of the broad head an still the Dnr Cant count the number of deer even with a system that has had millions of dollars spent on it by us, to get accurate numbers. What I wanna know is how come they havent been able to get better results on their counts? And how far can we take the deer heard down to. Because if it gets to low and there is a huge number of NEW hunters buying all the gadgets and never seeing any deer in the woods like they say. Will they as a group loose intrest and where will the dnr be then? just some thoughts but all in general they need to get the counts somewhat right or what are we accually doing to the herd.

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General Discussion / My feelings on Baiting.
« on: December 04, 2007, 06:55:09 AM »
 Why is it we cant Bait? Ok Cwd and all the neighbor issues on private land. I kinda think that is a lil far fetched, I so wish I could bait cause well, I do it to begin with. Not with Deer anymore but when I am fishing I have yet to see a guy on a public lake come right up and say what kinda worm is that, will it cause the fish to swim upside down? or shake around in the water and I dont think you should use that, or is Fishing a lil bit more ok to Bait? How many Millions of fish would you infect with a bad worm in water, or bad minnow? If for say you was fishing on Lake Michagan? Hummm? Ok This year lets see if the lil mom and pop bait shops can survive if the Deer hunters that didnt Bait this year didnt buy crawlers or minnows Cause they cant bait their hooks. We all have been baiting for years fishing and now lets stop that too. I dont ever think that will happen, so why with deer? When we have only 9 day gun hunting season and Fishing is almost year round come on its a farse. Ok Let me get my facts strait you can bait this year in some areas of the state I know that but hmmm? Isnt fishing all over the state? So what about hunting? And the New rules for dumping your minnows How will that work I dont get all this I wish people didnt get so up set If I pour out 2 gallons of corn in one spot and shoot a deer off it. But those same people will take their kids out on grandpas Pontoon and have bought over 1 pound of leaches and 4 dozen crawlers an 5 dozen fatt heads go fishing for a weekend 2 days keep the fish they catch in a bucket and then eat them isnt that what hunters did in the Past? Go out on grandpas land with a baited hook and then hang the deer from a tree after harvest and eat it? I think it comes down to those kinda people not using live bait to fish and having to try it that way to see what a differance it is with a plain hook. Or maybe they are fishing in things that plain and simple they shouldnt get cought in!

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Whitetail Deer / Re: No faith in the SAK numbers
« on: December 04, 2007, 06:19:14 AM »
I Dont trust any of it and this is why the state says 634652 hunters stood around the state and we had 1.8 million deer So about half the Deer give or take was covered for the gun season. Now out of that with all the percentages lined up an looked at from what I read, we only had 1.3 Million where was the rest of the Numbers? Are they counting inside citys? I live in Wauwatosa Wi and I can tell you I have seen deer at my house in my yard So do they use those numbers like Milwaukee and Other citys like Madison count them into the grand total? I am just confused. We as hunters are better equipted than years ago and well the aid of trail cams hunters must have the Dnr shaking in its tracks. There would be proof on the numbers we just need to see it.

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General Discussion / Re: Kicked Off Public Land Opening Day!
« on: November 26, 2007, 06:20:48 PM »
Yeah I was doing some thinking too for the future! What about the guys that are going hunting for spring turkeys Will he be up waiting for crow calls and owl hoots to zero in on those hunters too? I guess this is a bigger problem than he thought cause I have hunted in the past on county property for spring turkey and insted of blaze orange tree scouting opening day will he be walking into my decoy setups? I better give the warden another call in the mornig cause I never thought of all that I just had deer hunting on my brain cause of my spoiled opening day.

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General Discussion / Re: Kicked Off Public Land Opening Day!
« on: November 26, 2007, 04:37:15 PM »
Yes I Had my Twin bro on the ground asking him all the questions I was thinking and saying aloud from the tree stand whitch was a climber and I had a very hard time getting down fast cause I was so upset. The ratchet straps in the back was giving me trouble cause I was so upset. Plus I didnt wanna fall even with my safty belt attatched. And the Dnr warden did follow up on Monday morning with the complaint I had. the lady in the Forestry office got calls from warden Weber and a warden Supervisor and 11 other hunters he kicked out of that area on opening Day she told me and he was Corrected. My thought was what did we do (other hunters and I) that was so wrong that around like 8 am some uninformed county employie comes up and ruined my Opening day what I have spent thousands of Dollars on scouting and driving up to over the fall bow hunting just waiting for gun season to open up and one person like that can just say something with out any warning or anything that I have to go. If anyone knows anyother things I could have done that would be so helpfull too. this was my first time ever dealing with something like this! Hopefully my last!

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General Discussion / Kicked Off Public Land Opening Day!
« on: November 26, 2007, 01:03:20 AM »
 ??? Ok I have been hunting Some public land since I was 12 years old. I am 29 now its in Juneau County. I on opening Day had a Juneau county forestry guy tell me I Couldnt hunt there it was closed to hunting! Well He was who he said he was and I believed him But asked him this why was there no signs posted prior to hunting and called the county forestry Dept. They said it was open to hunting and (I was caller 13th caller that day and the Dnr warden Named Webber also ) he was wrong in doing what he did and he was corected that Monday morning but he had ruined my opening day for 2007. What can I do? I also learned he left a phew hunters alone to hunt the rest of the Day there and later that After noon while looking for more public land to hunt there was his truck and the same hunters he left on the land where I was opening morning talking to him Hummm kinda funny they all knew each other! Anyone have any Ideas? what else to do? I can hunt there an just dont want that to happen agian next year to me or anyone else!

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